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@Smallangryplanet There isn't any evidence Khrushchev tried to smear Stalin, at least the allegation isn't made in any credible sources. The first biography cited by Suny (2020) cites 3 other bios, including a Russian one I could not translate. The 2 English ones cited are Young Stalin and Stalin Unknown Portrait. Montiefore(chp.34) cites archival documents directly for the details of the event and also mentions a 1956 politburo report that signed of by all present and was then made secret. Kun(pg.168) cites archives and directly quotes villagers including Lidia herself from an interview in which she recalled details of her relationship and Svetlana(Stalin's daughter) after she defected in 1969. Both sources mention other rumors and accounts of the event, the earliest of which(according to Monteifore) is Essad Bey’s 1931 biography. No source cites Khrushchev or disputes that the 2 had a relationship.Originalcola (talk) 21:13, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Monteifore's biography has quite a bit of sensationalism in it but most major Stalin biographies released since then include this story(Kotkin's 2018 Stalin bio for example) without doubting it's authenticity and citing archival sources directly. Originalcola (talk) 22:30, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'm going to assume good faith but please remember that articles are meant to be written from a netural point of view, its seems you also 'have it in' for Stalin. Please don't synthesise popular history articles and rumours into your own original research. 185.3.86.208 (talk) 02:04, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
As an aside, Khrushchev did not "have it in for Stalin." The Secret Speech was a political document that sought to extricate the Communist Party leadership from having any responsibility for Stalin's misdeeds (a difficult task given Khrushchev and the rest of the leadership dutifully served Stalin in carrying out said misdeeds), so it's definitely not intended as an objective analysis, but Khrushchev in that same speech says that all the groundless repressions and other harmful actions of Stalin were not "the deeds of a giddy despot. He considered that this should be done in the interest of the Party; of the working masses, in the name of the defense of the revolution's gains. In this lies the whole tragedy!" Any biography of Khrushchev I'm aware of, such as William Taubman's, make the point that Khrushchev's attitude toward Stalin was not wholly negative, however unsatisfying the Secret Speech is as a document seeking to explain what happened and why. --Ismail (talk) 08:59, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Wikipedia profile on Hitler brands him a "Dictator" while Wikipedia profile on Stalin protects and promotes him as a "political theorist" and "leader".
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